We don’t talk much about the wine world on the show, but we couldn’t pass up the chance to have the legendary wine critic and big-ideas person Jancis Robinson in the studio. Wine talk can be a real snooze, but this wide-ranging chat is hardly the audio version of swirling and spitting. We talk about Jancis’s pioneering wine show on the BBC and how she translated wine to a wide audience. We also discuss what it’s like to select wines for Her Royal Highness and how the wines are highly scrutinized by the press and “royal watchers” (and we debate the accuracy of The Crown). We talk about natural wine and how the conventional wine world has been challenged by a seismic change in the industry. We learned a great deal from this conversation!

More from Jancis Robinson:

• The 24 Hour Wine Expert [Talks at Google]

• What Wine Twitter Taught Me About Wine [PUNCH]

• What Does It Take to Be a Great Wine Reference Book Today? [PUNCH]

Visit Jancis online at: jancisrobinson.com and take her online class.