She calls herself the Bob Ross of salads, and for very good reason. Jess Damuck is the salad freak behind the new cookbook Salad Freak and a really fun guest on our show today. Of course, we get into the Xs and Os of salad making, but we also find out about her journey—which included working closely with Martha Stewart for over a decade. We learn about the best way to store salad greens, the best way to use a salad spinner, serving salad hot, and the single mistake that most salad preppers are making. It’s a revealing conversation.

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More from Jess Damuck:

• Working for Martha Stewart Turned This Cookbook Author Into a ‘Salad Freak’ [Time]

• A Self-Proclaimed Salad Freak’s Kitchen Leads Right to the Garden [Domino]

• Essential Tools for a Better Salad [Food Network]

Buy: Salad Freak