Ali Francis is an Australian writer and pastry chef living in Salt Lake City, Utah. She’s the author of the new book ⁠The Curious Lives of Vegetables: An Artful Exploration of the Wonderful World of Edible Plants, Their History, and Their Crucial Role in Our Future⁠. It’s a must-read for produce lovers everywhere, with in-depth reporting and beautiful botanical illustrations that ensure you’ll never look at the grocery aisle or farmers’ market the same way again. Today on the show, Ali and I nerd out on all things vegetables.

And it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt discuss what’s interesting them in the world of food including Matt’s recent trip to Chicago where he visited ⁠Mi Tocaya Antojería⁠, ⁠Feld⁠, and ⁠Mindy’s Bakery⁠. He was blown away by all three. Aliza checks out ⁠Elbow Bread’s⁠ hot dog pop-up, ⁠Chambers⁠ for terrific late-summer cooking, and coffee at ⁠The Mandarin⁠ in New York City.

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