Claire Saffitz joins us for a summer-minded conversation about cooking outside the dessert lane. The best-selling author of ⁠Dessert Person⁠ and ⁠What’s for Dessert⁠ talks pizza-oven construction, YouTube behind-the-scenes, garden life in the Hudson Valley, and—for the first time—details about her upcoming third cookbook, which is a bit of a departure from her previous work.

And it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt discuss what’s interesting in the food world, including Matt’s visits to ⁠Lola’s⁠, ⁠Bar Chimera⁠, ⁠AOOA Farm⁠, and ⁠Superiority Burger⁠. Aliza checks out ⁠Dolores⁠, ⁠Un Posto Italiano⁠, and shares how she is having a real potato salad summer. 

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